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    Good news:

    According to Amazon France, a new recording of Missa Votiva (ZWV 18) by Collegium Vocale 1704 (artistic director: Vaclav Luks; see http://www.collegium1704.com) will be released on the Harmonia Mundi label in August 2008. Thanks to Roger Peters (the first person ever to become a member of the forum) for bringing this to my attention.

    The possibility that such a recording would be released has already been mentioned on this part of the forum (under the same thread as that discussing the possibility of a new Rademann recording of the same work), but at that time djdresden had heard that the label would be ZigZag Territoires. Now we know that it will be Harmonia Mundi.

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    Hi Alistair,

    great to hear about this, and one always celebrates a new Zelenka recording. Missa Votiva will be out on Zig Zag - which is distributed by Harmonia Mundi. Finished copies should be in stock late June and after that it will start to trickle out to the shops. Collegium 1704 have entered into a long term co-operation with Zig Zag so it's exciting to see what comes next. I noticed on the website of Collegium 1704 they are doing one of Zelenka's arrangements of a Caldara Mass and although here his contribution was only adding cues to the oboes, let's hope this will come out on cd.

    Earlier this year a Zelenka arrangement of a Sarri Mass was performed in Berlin, it was one of the works that turned up in the Singakademie Berlin collection which was returned from Kiev. A real Missa Brevis, only around 20 minutes it was no less than brilliant and one can hear the Zelenka colours. B.t.w. the Dresden source is so damaged it can't be looked at. Domenico Sarri / Sarro (1679-1744), was one of the main Naples composers and his works were treasured in Dresden. Zelenka entered 3 of his masses into his Inventarium, this Mass was probably the one No. 67, Missa Votiva, the last Mass entered into his Inventarium, was No. 68.

    And what's more, we probably have a date for Missa Votiva: According to the newly discovered pages from the Jesuit Diarium for 1739-1742, it was probably performed on the 2nd of July 1739, when the following passage is entered into the Diarium:
    Sacrum novum produxit D. Zelenka.

    I intend to write more on this new source in a couple of weeks, as it tells us many things about a relatively unknown part of Zelenka's life and the state of musical affairs at the Dresden Catholic Church.

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    Thanks, dj-leipzig,

    As I have said in private mail, you never cease to amaze me with your knowledge, and your ability to find out things! I take my hat off to you. "I intend to write more on this new source in a couple of weeks" sounds very interesting, so I (for one) will be watching the forum very carefully for contributions from djdresden...

    Best wishes from southern Sweden.

    Alistair

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    What wonderful news!

    I've been waiting patiently (as I'm sure many others have) for a second recording of the Missa Votiva to be recorded. After a little of googling, I also came accross a possible future recording of the Missa Sancti Spiritus by
    ZWV 4 by Capella Leopoldina (there was a ? after the title). I listened to the 2 instrumental sound samples on their website , and thought the ensemble were vigorous, competent, and very professional. Now, my interest is really stirred. Is it possible that we have yet another World Premiere of a great Zelenka Mass. I would be very curious if anyone knows more about this than I found on this website. I'm not adept at cutting and pasting (computer illiterate, what can I say!). The info is at newolde.com/zelenka.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian
    What wonderful news!

    I've been waiting patiently (as I'm sure many others have) for a second recording of the Missa Votiva to be recorded. After a little of googling, I also came accross a possible future recording of the Missa Sancti Spiritus by
    ZWV 4 by Capella Leopoldina (there was a ? after the title). I listened to the 2 instrumental sound samples on their website , and thought the ensemble were vigorous, competent, and very professional. Now, my interest is really stirred. Is it possible that we have yet another World Premiere of a great Zelenka Mass. I would be very curious if anyone knows more about this than I found on this website. I'm not adept at cutting and pasting (computer illiterate, what can I say!). The info is at newolde.com/zelenka.htm
    Thank you for the information, as I'm currently working on ZWV4, with only the Kyrie done for now.
    Please let us know quickly if you learn more !

    SK

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    Hello Skiaouros,

    I have just emailed the office of Capella Leopoldina regarding the possible recording of ZWV4. I would not expect a reply this weekend, but hopefully will have an answer some time next week. The moment (if) I hear something I will post the information on this site.

    regards, Brian

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    So some of the missing years of the Diarium have been found. Really DjDresden, Im very curious! Does the Diarium contain any information about performances of one of the Missae Ultimae?

    This must be the biggest biographical find concerning Zelenka in years! Alistair, youre not the only one keeping a close watch on the pages of this site the following weeks.

    Just to make our waiting a bit more pleasant: a few weeks ago I stumbled across the site of the Prague Cathedral Choir where you can download a complete recording of the Missa Nativitatis Domini (ZWV 8): http://pks.sdh.cz/mp3.htm. (By the way: the Kasseler Bachchoir sings this mass on December 13 see www.kasselerbachchor.de.)

    Best wishes,
    Peter

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    Update: I did not get a reply from Capella Leopoldina. Perhaps the info on newolde.com was old. I did notice that G. Reusse on the main forum last year said there would be no recording of ZWV4 because a contract fell through. I'll check the site occassionaly for possible developments.
    On another note, the Missa Votiva sound samples are now available on the Zig Zag Territories site, and the cd is for sale. I just listened to it and am very loathe to say that I'm not exactly "over the moon" about it. It sounded a bit flat to my ear. Perhaps others may feel differently, I hope so. Also, on their website they speak of a recording (in Prague) of a Zelenka Oratorio (which one?) this November as well as the Tenebrae Responses.

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    Just to make our waiting a bit more pleasant: a few weeks ago I stumbled across the site of the Prague Cathedral Choir where you can download a complete recording of the Missa Nativitatis Domini (ZWV 8): http://pks.sdh.cz/mp3.htm. (By the way: the Kasseler Bachchoir sings this mass on December 13 – see www.kasselerbachchor.de.)

    Best wishes,
    Peter
    Peter, thank you very much for this link. The trumpet is having a hard time with high pitch.
    ZWV8 has been completed with several parts from ZWV10 (Sanctus, Benedictus, Osanna, Agnus Dei).
    Also that mass has been published by http://www.butz-verlag.de in 2007.

    Brian, thanks for the ZWV4 info.
    ZWV10 mp3s are almost finished, ZWV4 and 2 are next.

    SK
    Last edited by skiaouros; 21-06-2008 at 03:20 PM.

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    Thanks Peter, for the link to ZWV 8 which I enjoyed very much even though the performance was wobbly at times.

    I received the new Missa Votiva cd couple of weeks ago, which called for one more holy moment with our friend. This turned out to be excellent in every way. The only reservation I have is the tempi in the Credo, which is a bit too fast for my liking, and I also was not thrilled by the quality of the sound, and that's a first from ZZT, their cd's are usually crisp and clear, but not this one. However, nothing overshadows the quality of the work itself, and once again I am amazed by the power of this music.

    As for the newly discovered pages from the Jesuit Diarium for the years 1739-42, I have posted more info in the Manuscripts section.

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