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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanaseb View Post
    "(cover artwork will be different)"
    I've see the artwork, and it's really beautiful. The Nibiru issues just keep getting better!

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    Now they have the full track listing (and final cover) shown at http://cdmusic.cz/inshop/scripts/det...22939&level=51. The track-listing confirms Alistair's statement above that ZWV 82 (a rather jolly setting of Laudate Pueri) is indeed included. For the seven works on the disc the total time is 79:56, so that is one full disc (4 seconds away from perfection?!). As I mentioned above, to obtain that playing time, they must have been "digging it", so to speak! To give an idea, take the huge opening chorus of ZWV 83 which on the new disc has a play time of 7:02. The three other versions of this chorus play for 8:54 (Kühn mixed choir here), 7:38 (Collegium 1704 live here), 8:04 (A Brazilian ? performance here). To be 36 seconds quicker than the already fast Luks performance is going to take some and we can expect some quite dazzling solo lines there. Same applies to the Magnificat which clocks in at about the same speed as the recording by Capella Piccola, which, David Nelson refers in his survey on this site with "the tempo in the first two sections seems to me much too quick, forcing the soprano and choir almost to gabble".

    If Inegal have pulled this off (and with their pedigree there is no reason to suspect that they won't) then this is going to be mind-blowing high-energy disc. Wow, can't wait!!
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    That cover ... I had to laugh . Great!
    Muscular Apotheosis

    As for tempi, I guess we'll have to wait and hear

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    *UPDATE: CD is now available to purchase. Here at cdmusic.cz, and at the arta.cz link below*

    This feels like a spoiler, but here are the liner notes! Jan Stockigt

    http://www.arta.cz/index.php?site=en...arch_m=#sleeve
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    Here is a "foretaste of the heavenly pleasures", courtesy of Adam Viktora:

    https://soundcloud.com/ensemble-ineg...-83-first-part
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Here is a "foretaste of the heavenly pleasures", courtesy of Adam Viktora:

    https://soundcloud.com/ensemble-ineg...-83-first-part
    Wow, they nailed it! It's fast and furious but never sounds rushed. Compared to the other three versions available (see my previous posting, one old recording and two youtube postings of poor quality audio of performances, one of them by Collegium 1704) finally the full details of Zelenka's score are exposed. At this speed, the bursts of orchestral colour he threw in here and there particularly dazzle. Moreover, the choir danced like rams even when it was not called for in the text () and the soloists had a fine day at the office too! The only thing that caught me was the final note: Apart from a complete lack of rallentando, they apparently decided to drop the quadrupole stop (a e' c'' a'') in the 2nd violins and get the 2nds double the 1sts on an a'. This makes the final chord seem rather abrupt and almost missing the need to draw a big fat line under those 7 minutes of highly energetic playing and singing. However, I reserve judgement till I hear the final disc. Perhaps the gap to the Gloria Patri will be extremely short and so we will spill abruptly into the, in contrast rather sickly sweet section, before returning quickly to the gritty and determined mood for the "atonal" fugue. Of course I cannot wait to hear the the latter having worked intensively on that for the keyboard transcription recently.

    I stated above that if the tempo necessary to cram the 7 works onto one CD can be achieved then it will be a mind-blowing disc. Judging by this pretaste, I was right. I cannot wait for the rest - it is going to arrive in the mail in the next few days. Unfortunately I ordered it to my wife and told her to give it me for xmas. So, please no more spoilers in the next three weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnkt View Post
    I cannot wait for the rest - it is going to arrive in the mail in the next few days. Unfortunately I ordered it to my wife and told her to give it me for xmas. So, please no more spoilers in the next three weeks
    ...Good luck, that's asking a lot! I'll keep my lips sealed, Xmas isn't too far away anyway.

    That sample is great, and each time I listen it comes across differently - a good sign, as it means there's a lot of depth and much to discover!
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    Rnkt, please don't read this

    I got the CD yesterday by mail and have already listened to it three times. I't marvellous and would be worth full price just for the concluding fugue of Confitebor (world premiere recording). Tobias Hunger is fantastic, especially in his section of Dixit. The music and performance are very energetic I have one small quibble: namely the intonation in the tenors in the choir in Dixit on the word 'dominare', where they are alone for a moment and well, should be dominating : the're quite weak and almost flat! It's very interesting to listen to the De Profundis without the brass, I agree it suddenly is not Requiem-like, but fit for the vespers.

    ... and the ease with which the choir goes through the concluding fugue from In Exitu Israel should bring them highest praise only!

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    I can't help but spill out my thoughts too *SPOILERS* (rnkt beware)

    I was totally blown away. I locked myself in a room to hear the whole disc, on a wintry late afternoon going into evening (which was atmospherically superb, like a Vespers service!).
    I agree with Elwro on Tobias Hunger. I was particularly struck at how beautifully he sung the 'Sustinuit anima mea' aria in De Profundis. For me, it had the tone of a monk chanting, which worked well with the other actual chants used within the piece. In general, that piece felt like a perfect calm ending to the whole cycle - like candles being blown out in the dark.

    Speaking of which, though Zelenka most likely never had his psalm cycles performed together in one evening (As his memorandum at the end of the Inventarium shows, he mixed his own pieces with those that he had collected from other composers for a full Vespers service for any time of year), they do work extremely well side by side. For example: The opening of Confitebor had an other-worldly trance-like effect, what with its polyphony hearkening to the Renaissance (in fact, ZWV 72 was simply a masterpiece of human art). This contrasted well with the concerted vivacity of the previous 'Sicut erat' chorus of the Dixit. Later, the full-on torturous chromaticism of the Beatus was answered by the luscious positivity of the small-forces Laudate Pueri. Similarly, the Magnificat gave a welcome shock of trumpets & timpani (meaning that Inégal (wisely) chose to record the later version) which gave huge relief from the now-so-infamous In Exitu 'Amen' fugue.

    As per usual the soloists and musicians were superb, everyone had a chance to shine. The Lenka Cafourková (solo sop) / Peter Zajíček (solo violin) interplay was enthralling in the 'Redemptio' from Confitebor. Lisandro Abadie took centre stage many-a-time and won me over with his voice. The 'De torrente' from Dixit now has to be one of my favourite aria unison ritornellos, the strings undulate, pound away and reverberate, in what's a marvellous interpretation.

    I find it amazing that the recording history of ZWV 50/97 has now seen 3 completely different interpretations of tempi for the first movement (marked 'Largo' by Zelenka). Kuhn back in the 80s did it ridiculously fast, Dombrecht in the 90s did it a lot slower, but still with energy, and now Viktorá does it even slower. It's a case-study of how interpretation of Baroque music can vary so much over time and between interpreters. I am slowly (pardon the pun...) warming to Inégal's version - it gives a lot of space and perhaps gives the best reflection of the powerful psalm texts.

    I came out of that room and thought: I heard Zelenka for the first time all over again!


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    Hi all,

    As part of my doctoral dissertation I have produced performing editions of Zelenka's two unpublished 'Dixit Dominus' settings (ZWV 66 & 67). I'm hoping to get them published soon. Ensemble Inegal's recording of ZWV 66 is much better than the recording I made as part of a doctoral recital, but you can hear a free recording of it here:
    http://michaeldriscollconductor.com/bu-recital/

    Mike Driscoll

    P.S. I have also made editions of 'Dixit Dominus' by Pitoni, Fabri (Schmitt?), and Ingegnieri, all three of which Zelenka arranged for use at the Dresden court chapel. They will be included in my dissertation thesis, which I hope to complete in April 2016.

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