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    Default First in (hopefully) a series of Zelenka keyboard transcriptions

    It is about time that Zelenka's apparent omission to write for the keyboard is rectified. A first attempt has been uploaded to IMSLP here. It is a transcription of the wonderfully quirky almost waltz-like Quoniam from his totally brilliant Missa Sancti Josephi (ZWV 14). Kindly Zelenka included two copies of this number (anyone know why?) so where there was damage (or simply his dreadful handwriting!) in the manuscript there was always a second opinion at hand. I hope someone enjoys playing it!

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    Awesome work! Please do more! :-)

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    Thanks! My current projects are another Quoniam, this time from ZWV 20 (this will be *really* fun to play - actually sounds rather like beethovenian scarlatti once the strings figurations are converted to something that works on the keyboard ) and the Cum sancto double fugue from ZWV 30, mainly because it is one of my most favourite Zelenka works, though sadly not yet (professionally) recorded. I'll probably return to ZWV 14 at some point to do the quite miraculous Cum sancto fugue as well but I have serious concerns that I won't be able to play it .

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    Transcribing unrecorded works is a great idea; some fugues are fantastic, even though they really seem to be vocal :-) Have you taken a look at the ZWV 2 Credo: http://burrito.whatbox.ca:15263/imgl...0603-ZWV_2.pdf ? With its triple fugue at the end? Skiaouros had made a pdf of it a few years ago, and it was downloadable from this site, but somehow I cannot find it here now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwro View Post
    Transcribing unrecorded works is a great idea; some fugues are fantastic, even though they really seem to be vocal :-) Have you taken a look at the ZWV 2 Credo: http://burrito.whatbox.ca:15263/imgl...0603-ZWV_2.pdf ? With its triple fugue at the end? Skiaouros had made a pdf of it a few years ago, and it was downloadable from this site, but somehow I cannot find it here now.
    Here's the MP3 file [the ones Skiaouros synthesised from the score] from the E-download section of that Et Vitam triple fugue. Great to read the music and listen at the same time (though this score version doesn't include the 3 Trombones found in the full mass). A definite wow, is this one: http://jdzelenka.net/Public/ZWV%202/...Et%20vitam.mp3

    Also, that 'Credo della Messa' title page looks stunning!! Zelenka doodling, who'd have thought!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanaseb View Post
    Here's the MP3 file [the ones Skiaouros synthesised from the score] from the E-download section of that Et Vitam triple fugue. Great to read the music and listen at the same time (though this score version doesn't include the 3 Trombones found in the full mass). A definite wow, is this one: http://jdzelenka.net/Public/ZWV%202/...Et%20vitam.mp3

    Also, that 'Credo della Messa' title page looks stunning!! Zelenka doodling, who'd have thought!
    Thanks guys for introducing me to that. I didn't get down to low ZWV numbers yet :-) That fugue is indeed stunning and the choir on the mp3 does a good job to keep up . I listened to some of the other MP3s in the ZWV 2 folder and was surprised to hear that the Gloria setting is the same as ZWV 30 (the one I am currently transcribing). However, on IMSLP there is only the credo posted. Also ZWV 2 was supposedly composed in 1714 and ZWV 30 ten years later. So, my question, is ZWV 2 a complete mass of just a credo fragment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnkt View Post
    Thanks guys for introducing me to that. I didn't get down to low ZWV numbers yet :-) That fugue is indeed stunning and the choir on the mp3 does a good job to keep up . I listened to some of the other MP3s in the ZWV 2 folder and was surprised to hear that the Gloria setting is the same as ZWV 30 (the one I am currently transcribing). However, on IMSLP there is only the credo posted. Also ZWV 2 was supposedly composed in 1714 and ZWV 30 ten years later. So, my question, is ZWV 2 a complete mass of just a credo fragment?

    - RNKT
    Ah, interesting! I had similar thoughts - Maybe Skiaouros can help answer, I think he was the one who compiled these files.

    On another note, related to the thread topic - - I have been doing a little Zelenka-Keyboard project of my own which I should be recording and releasing on YouTube some time soon.

    His 9 Canons for the Hexachord (Zwv 191), 'in imitation of the most highly esteemed Master' Johann Joseph Fux - are actually really nice to learn for the piano, and are just about playable, even though they are for three voices (three instruments?). The bass-line is very very simple (C, D, E etc.- - -> A, A, G - - - > C), and the other lines are OK to read once you have got used to the different Clefs. They are interesting because you can see a rudimentary base for Zelenka's music. Jan Stockigt mentions in her book that he uses these canons as compositional tools.

    Here is the score: http://imslp.org/wiki/9_Canons,_ZWV_191_(Zelenka,_Jan_Dismas)

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    This person created a "Zelenka Suite" for the organ, out of some of his orchestral works: http://imslp.org/wiki/Zelenka_Suite_(Mekelburg,_Frauke)

    If I were an organist or had access to an organ, I would gladly give it a go!

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    Next instalment in my Zelenka keyboard transcriptions project is a reworking of the Amen fugue from the psalm motet "In Exitu Israel" (ZWV 83). It's a beautifully chromatic work, the first section of which toys precariously with atonality. It is well suited to the piano. It also provides a foretaste of the greatly anticipated CD by Ensemble Inegal covering the first psalm cycle, which includes ZWV 83.

    My transcription can be downloaded here.

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    Great to hear of all this activity. It would be very nice if recordings of these transcriptions could be uploaded so we can hear how this sounds.

    I’ve uploaded a PDF file to my Dropbox, with scans of the earliest known piano arrangements made of Zelenka’s music. These were done by the musicologist Otto Schmid-Dresden and published in 1904. I can’t recall if this has been discussed here in the Forum so here we go. The pieces are:

    1. Largo from ZWV 186.
    2. Menuet I & II from ZWV 190.
    3. Canarie and Aria from ZWV 183.

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kzct794zv...H0ADfd8Qa?dl=0

    I would be grateful if a kind soul would play these pieces on the piano and upload a recording: it doesn’t have to be professional but just so we can hear how these first transcriptions are.

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