Posts by skiaouros

    Hello,


    In the download area of this site reposes many computer mock-ups of unpublished and/or unrecorded works : ZWV1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,12,14,15,16 (ZWV5 seems lost), miserere ZWV56,
    De profundis ZWV96, Da pacem domine ZWV167...
    Most works are complete, the midi files can give you an idea of the scores, some have the lyrics included. These works were done by Germund and SK, from manuscript copies, microfilm or pdf, purchased at the Dresden and Berlin libraries.
    Janice B. Stockigt's book contains library references (German and Czech) of the manuscripts.


    At the beginning of september, the masses ZWV2, 4, 9, 10 and 15 will be complete and have new audio mp3s. Free scores can be prepared on request.


    Try http://www.sfb.at to find second hand scores of the last masses (ZWV17-21),
    these Baerenreiter editions are expensive. You can always try to buy the manuscript and
    edit your own score, but beware, for example the last mouvement of Missa Dei Filii was
    not completed by the author and require lengthy conterpoint composition for the Alto and Tenore parts.


    Some reasonnably priced publishers :
    - Edition Walhall : ZWV1
    - Carus Verlag : ZWV13, Magnificats, many small works
    - Editio Supraphon : Requiem...
    - Ortus Musikverlag : ZWV56
    - Butz Verlag : ZWV8
    - Kunzelmann : ZWV11


    Best wishes,
    SK

    Quote from Peter


    Just to make our waiting a bit more pleasant: a few weeks ago I stumbled across the site of the Prague Cathedral Choir where you can download a complete recording of the Missa Nativitatis Domini (ZWV 8): http://pks.sdh.cz/mp3.htm. (By the way: the Kasseler Bachchoir sings this mass on December 13 – see http://www.kasselerbachchor.de.)

    Best wishes,
    Peter


    Peter, thank you very much for this link. The trumpet is having a hard time with high pitch.
    ZWV8 has been completed with several parts from ZWV10 (Sanctus, Benedictus, Osanna, Agnus Dei).
    Also that mass has been published by http://www.butz-verlag.de in 2007.


    Brian, thanks for the ZWV4 info.
    ZWV10 mp3s are almost finished, ZWV4 and 2 are next.


    SK

    Quote from Brian

    What wonderful news!


    I've been waiting patiently (as I'm sure many others have) for a second recording of the Missa Votiva to be recorded. After a little of googling, I also came accross a possible future recording of the Missa Sancti Spiritus by
    ZWV 4 by Capella Leopoldina (there was a ? after the title). I listened to the 2 instrumental sound samples on their website , and thought the ensemble were vigorous, competent, and very professional. Now, my interest is really stirred. Is it possible that we have yet another World Premiere of a great Zelenka Mass. I would be very curious if anyone knows more about this than I found on this website. I'm not adept at cutting and pasting (computer illiterate, what can I say!). The info is at newolde.com/zelenka.htm


    Thank you for the information, as I'm currently working on ZWV4, with only the Kyrie done for now.
    Please let us know quickly if you learn more !


    SK

    Quote from pflight1

    Hello. I am interested to know who has published the Requiem in D minor ZWV 48. Does anyone know if a score and parts exist? Also, vocal scores?


    Thanks,


    Paul


    Hello Paul,


    I know of a full score :


    Requiem D Moll ZWV 48
    Musica Antiqua Bohemica, Serie II, 14
    Editio Supraphon Praha H7701 (1995)


    In the same Serie II you have :
    4 : Lamentationes Jeremiae prophetate
    5 : Psalmi et Magnificat
    12 : Sub olea pacis et palma virtutis


    SK

    First, great thanks to Germund for working on the manuscripts, it is fun
    to work on the mp3s.


    The 'Et in terra pax' (EITP) in ZWV14 is similar to my ears to three composers :


    - Lotti's Mass for Three Choirs written while in Dresden (1717-19) (CD Centaur CRC 2376) Listen the quietness and energy crescendo in the EITP.
    It is one of my favorite works (Kyrie & EITP), if you like JD Zelenka harmonies, you will love it. Lotti's manuscript is in Harvard and AFAIK not published, if anyone can help...
    Antonio Lotti has been a teacher to JDZ (according to Fürstenau cited by Stockigt), he worked at least in Venice (San Marco) and Dresden.


    - Another Venitian Antonio : Vivaldi with its beautiful Glorias RV588/589 and the descending motive of Pax on earth and heart.


    - Giovanni Maria Ruggieri (?/1690-?/1715), Gloria RV Anh 23, cited in Michael Talbot 'The sacred vocal music of A. Vivaldi', Vivaldi owned many scores of him and may have borrowed from his Gloria.


    That EITP form may have been a long tradition and offers an opportunity to compare the different developments and natures of feelings.
    Zelenka owned score copies of both Antonios.


    I would be glad to know about other similar examples.


    SK

    Hello Peter,


    Thank you for your comments !


    Eventually I finished the Kyrie II of ZWV7, Agnus Dei and Dona nobis of ZWV1.
    As far as I know the autograph of ZWV7 is unique and definitive.
    About the ZWV1, I used an edition that may not be definitive, some scholars (in New Zealand ?) may be working on a more complete edition.


    I did the ZWV9 too, for now the mp3s are quickly done.
    ZWV8 and ZWV14 are on the way, thanks to G. Reuss.


    And more works are programmed...


    Cheers,
    SK

    Dear Peter,


    There are no specific details, but the two pages interview is about also
    the 40th anniversary of the Kammerchor Stuttgart and last Bernius CD of Mendelssohn's Paulus on Carus Verlag label.


    Bernius quoted (translated) :
    "I'm trying for a long time to combine the more and the less known. This way I engraved the last three masses of Zelenka, less famous than Bach, and we just offered in concert a fourth one, the Missa Votiva, which we will record next year".


    SK.

    Hello,


    I would like to improve the sound of the mp3s you can find in the download section. I dislike most of what I have done, when it sounds good it is by chance. And I have just learned about the B.C. with ripieni... There are drastic improvements to do : reverb, word spelling, articulation of strings, voice conducting... I have not yet tried to imitate recorded works, just to see how far I can go alone. As a 'melomane' I am missing fondamental musician knowledges.
    What do you think should be done first, i.e. what is the worse that needs an immediate fix, not necessarily easy ?
    Any book recommandation for choir conducting, orchestra direction and baroque music interpretation (good enough for these MIDI experiments) ?


    Thank you,
    SK

    Hello,


    I have recorded 4 excerpts of Missa Divi Xaverii ZWV12 and Regina Coeli ZWV129.
    It is very amateurish, MIDI and sound are not at all polished.
    If you would like to hear that, let me know where to upload the mp3 files (2.43MB).


    S.

    Hello,


    They contain around 280 pages and the size is 32x25cm.
    There is a text in german, a few facsimile examples, the full choral and orchestral score, the usual basso continuo with a figured bass (not a keyboard reduction), and a critic text about the sources and edition.


    You can purchase digital copies of the original manuscripts 0.30€ per page (difficult to read but they have the figured bass by the author) from the SLUB library (http://www.tu-dresden.de/slub/).


    S.

    The published full scores :


    ZWV 17, Missa Sanctissimae Trinitatis a-Moll
    Das Erbe Deutscher Musik Band 103, Breitkopf & Härtel, 1987


    ZWV 21, Missa ultimarum sexta: Missa Omnium Sanctorum a-Moll
    Das Erbe Deutscher Musik Band 101, Breitkopf & Härtel, 1989


    ZWV 57, Miserere c-Moll
    Das Erbe Deutscher Musik Band 108, Breitkopf & Härtel, 1997


    They are expensive in hardcover, cloth, with facsimile, and "realized continuo".
    Maybe these are not listed in their online catalog, but available by special order to sales dpt.
    Or you can try second hand books, a good metasearch is http://www.eurobuch.com.


    Good luck.

    Quote from jbstockigt

    If possible, I would like to know which version (ie. which year) of this Mass is available as a publication


    The edition Walhall includes a facsimile of the manuscript title page (Mus. 2358-D-7a bzw. 8), it is dated 1712. Herausgegeben von Martin Kellhuber.


    The introductory text add :
    <<
    What served as a basis for the edition in hand was the synoptic rendering of various versions by Zelenka, provided by Anselm Gerhard (1981), deposit work in possession of Erbe deutscher Musik (Schulberg 2/Pfleghof, D-71070 Tübingen, Germany; including the relevant Critical Commentary, Master's Thesis, Berlin 1981"
    >>

    Hello,


    The requiem in D ZWV 46 can be found on :
    - Supraphon 60CO-1596 (2 CDs), Czech Philharmonic Chorus and orchestra, conducted by Vaclav Neumann and Lubomir Matl, 1985.
    - Camerata Tokyo CDT-1016, Kusatsu Commemorative Recording, 1993. (booklet mentions erroneously ZWV 43 and World Premier)


    S.